Nine Elms visit 2nd August 1964
Mike Coulson visited Nine Elms on 2nd August 1964 and observed:
Also noted: 35014 10.30 ex Waterloo; 35020 10.45 Waterloo-Basingstoke 73113 11.30 ex-Waterloo 35001 Down Belle, 34082 34093 34071 34003 73169 on down unidentified passenger trains ex-Waterloo 82012 on ECS.
Here are a few photos taken by Mike Coulson during his visit:
Mike also sent this photo taken at Waterloo of 35022 on the 10.30 on Saturday 31st July 1965. It was taken either by Mike or one of the lads he travelled with - so long ago. He asks - any idea who the crew are?
Geoff Kerr wrote:
I happened to look through the list of locos seen at Nine Elms shed on 2nd August 1964 by Mike Coulson. One of those listed is BR class 4 2-6-0 76082, which I thought wasn't a SR loco. A trawl through my list showed it as allocated to 24D Lower Darwen (Blackburn), moving to Sutton Oak (St. Helens) in March 1965.
I thought it must be a misprint but then tried googling 76082 and several photos of it came up around this time, at Basingstoke shed (one in the company of 4472 Flying Scotsman), and working local trains at Worting Jn and Vauxhall. So clearly the SR was using it and Mike's entry was correct. But how did it get there from Lancashire and didn't Lower Darwen want it back? The SR had around 40 of the class on its books at the time. Maybe it had gone for overhaul at Eastleigh.
Richard Greenwood replied:
I think the people at Horwich knew the writing was on the wall because they seemed to give 76065 a super overhaul which probably pushed their comparative cost up. 76065 stayed in the Lancashire area working for a few weeks and did not go south immediately. Horwich did the LMR and ER and NER 76oxx.
Geoff Kerr wrote again:
The RCTS volume on the Standard 4-6-0 and 2-6-0 Classes states that "from February 1964, the LMR allocation (of class 4 2-6-0s) was overhauled at other regions' works; known examples are - Eastleigh - 76022/39/44/77/79/82/88/89."
Several are listed under Swindon, Crewe, Darlington and Cowlairs but none under Horwich.
The engine record cards are held at York and I had a quick look at these, although getting short of time.
76082 was at Horwich 15.5.61 to 16.6.61 for HI repair (Heavy Intermediate) and at Eastleigh 19.5.64 to 24.6.64 for "light casual". This was before Mike's Nine Elms visit and the dates of the photos I found on-line, so it evidently stayed on the Southern for a while. I wonder if the other "foreign" locos listed as going to Eastleigh went straight back to their home region.
76065, a 71A-based loco, visited Horwich between 12.3.63 and 16.4.63 for a "General". So you had the right loco, Richard, although the dates don't seem to match up very well.
Does all this suggest a straight comparison between repair costs or was something else going on?
Richard Greenwood emailed in response:
I photographed 76063 at Rochdale on 22 April 1963 having worked a stopping train from Liverpool Exchange.
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